
Thug life is when you walk into a top university with a cool $125K in scholarship despite a low GRE score, low undergrad GPA, being a reapplicant…and 15 soul-crushing rejections!
But where do you pin the blame after getting all those rejections from MS and MBA programs alike?
The obvious culprit was a below average GRE score for his target bschools. And maybe his low academic grades. What about the non-profit background? Did that fail to impress the admissions committee? Or was it his carpet bombing approach to applications?
GMAT Club moderator, Vivek Kumar, was at his wit’s end trying to figure out what it was that was stopping him from getting into a good university. And the generic feedback he got from some of the programs that rejected him didn’t help either.
He explains what he did in his third year of university applications that got him a full scholarship worth 85 lakh Indian Rupees.
How I got a full scholarship worth $125,000 after 15 rejections
How I got into the Questrom School of Business (Boston University)
by Vivek Kumar
I had worked for 3.5 years in a US based MNC and for 2 years in a non-profit.
Even when I was working at the MNC, I had assumed a leadership role in the firms CSR wing. This got me really interested in contributing to growing the trends of CSR.
So, I decided to expand my horizon and take on the next level of challenge. Hence, I made my next switch to the Non-profit industry.
I gave my test in 2016 and got a low GRE score of 319 with bare minimum preparation. I felt that my profile was similar to that of any average Indian applicant.
I was interested in doing my Masters in something which was at the intersection of Management and Technology and Master of Engineering Management (MEM) looked like a good fit for me.
I applied to 3 of the top MEM programs in USA (including Duke and Northwestern) and got dinged.
I received a feedback that these programs need much better academics and a bit lesser work experience.
MBA was something which had always attracted me but an MBA from USA was way more expensive than a Master’s program.
I already had more than 4 years of experience by then and thus I decided to apply for the US MBA programs hoping that I could somehow get some financial aid from the school.
I applied with the same GRE score in Round 2 of 2017 to almost 10 different business schools in USA and Canada.
As far as I can remember, the schools I applied to were – WP Carey, Questrom, Smeal, Olin, Caroll, Katz, Fisher, Desautels, McGill, Rotman, Alberta, UBC Sauder.
I got dinged by 11 of them and waitlisted by one.
Since there was not much improvement in profile, my waitlist status got turned into a rejection in the month of June. It was heartbreaking to be rejected after being put on the waitlist for 4 months.
I didn’t give up. I decided to reapply in R1 in the following year.
I reached out to Manish Gupta of MBA Crystal Ball. He suggested me to go for MBA MAP and two B-schools’ application review package.
I opted for that and started preparing for GMAT simultaneously. I gave my GMAT in October but couldn’t get a better score compared to my earlier GRE score.
I decided to apply with the same old low GRE score and give my best in the application process.
The MBA MAP process helped me understand my strength and weakness and also helped me decide which schools I shall be a good fit for.
I asked for feedback to each of the 12 schools that dinged me. I got feedback from about 6 of them.
The feedback from most of them was more or less generic (highly competitive applicant pool and lower academics).
Change in application strategy
I applied to just 4 business schools this time (2 in R1 and 2 in R2) and did a lot of research on each of them.
I spoke to 3-4 current students, faculties from each school, and also attended each of their events. I revised my essays and resumes multiple times with the help of Vibhav.
Vibhav pointed out unique strengths in my story that I would have never thought of on my own. My essays were now in a much better shape after several rounds of constructive criticism from Vibhav.
I also worked as a moderator for GMAT Club helping out many aspirants and conducting admission events for different schools. That experience helped me to gain further insights into the overall process.
I got interview invites for all of them. I nailed all the interviews and started playing the waiting game and preparing for the second round.
Finally, the first-round result was declared on 15th of December.
I still remember that night. I was excited to see that I was admitted with a full tuition scholarship from Boston University, Questrom School of Business for the dual degree program – MBA plus MS in Digital Innovation.
Having a low GRE score, low GMAT score and a low GPA, and still getting a free ride with full scholarship after 3 years of struggle was always a dream for me.
Incidentally, it was the same school that had waitlisted me for four months last year and eventually dinged me.
I couldn’t sleep that night. I didn’t have to worry about the financials and joining BU was a no-brainer for me.
Morever, Questrom has a Social Impact MBA and a dual degree program which perfectly aligned with my goals.
Lessons from my MBA application experience
I am loving my MBA experience so far. I am a part of so many different and diverse teams and I love working with them on so many individual projects. Had I done my MBA from India, I would have got this much needed exposure and experience.
My biggest learning is that your academic grades and scores are not everything. I applied with my two-year-old low GRE score and a low undergrad GPA.
One should be able to prove the fit aspect and how badly one needs to get into a business school.
Also, being a reapplicant, it’s crucial to show what exact improvements you have made in your profile.
Improvements could be in the form of better test score, more networking, better essays, better fit, LORs, promotion at workplace, or any achievement in extracurricular activities.
One should do his or her own research before reaching out to any MBA consultant.
If someone thinks that he knows his reasons and motivations for doing an MBA, has complete awareness of the strength and weaknesses in his application then he might not need a consultant.
However, it’s always good to have someone to help you in the process especially if you have weaknesses in your application, lack blue-chip companies on your resume, running short of time, or simply don’t know how to position your profile as per the requirement of business schools.
Also, even the best MBA application consultant doesn’t reduce the need for you to work hard. They make sure that we work in the right direction.
Even though I had a consultant to help me, I had to do lot of research on deciding my post MBA goal and what exactly do MBA grads do in those roles and how it relates to my skills.
This is a very crucial step and having a clear set of goals will help you even after joining the business school.
Also read:
– Low undergrad GPA success stories
– Low GMAT success stories
– Reapplicant success stories
– MBA admit with GMAT score less than 100 points from class average
A reader on social media asked: ‘Is 319 out of 340 a low GRE score?’
Here’s the response:
For an Indian applicant applying to MBA programs using GRE, yes it’s a low score.
The equivalent (converted) GMAT score would be in the 600-650 range.
Here’s a GRE-to-GMAT conversion table for reference: https://www.mbacrystalball.com/blog/2014/01/23/gre-to-gmat-score-conversion/
In many MBA programs, the 80 percentile range for GMAT scores (they don’t publish GRE ranges) is 650 to 750.
For the program Vivek got into, the class average is 681, putting him around 30-40 points below the average.
That makes his success story more commendable and inspiring for applicants, specially those who have been feeling discouraged with their test scores.
And hats off to Vivek for his never-say-die attitude. Most others in his shoes may have given up after so many rejections!
How did you get a $125,000 scholarship?
Is this a full tuition scholarship along with additional fellowship?
Can you elaborate a bit on the scholarship part.
Hie
I’m shivraj from India. I’m trying to get admission in USA for MBA but I have financial problem.
Please suggest me best university in USA for scholarship and less expensive
@Shivraj – this may help: https://www.mbacrystalball.com/blog/2018/01/03/tuition-free-universities-world/
Sir I am a law grad. With just 55% marks from an avg. Law school , currently working as a HR for a Pvt. Co. For a couple of years , I am preparing to take gmat by December, do I have a chance of getting into top 100? I am aiming for a 650+ score in gmat ,
Top 100 should be workable. However, might be worth getting one more year of experience preferably.
Hello Sir,
M from India
Can I get help for choosing d world class Universities for Satellite communications..wid full scholarships..
Plzz reply sir..
M in 3rd yr of ECE engg ..
For MS, here is how we can help: https://www.mbacrystalball.com/custom#sopreview
Hi Guys,
I have a GRE score 316. But i have a kickass resume. I have worked in KPMG as a Management Consultant for 5 years and received 3 promotions. Consulted Govt of India and some of big banks in IT Transformation projects. I am applyin to Carey(Average GRE 310), UNC(Average GRE 317), Alberta(Average GRE 310), Rotman(Average GRE 320), Saunders(Average GRE 320) and HEC Montreal(Average GRE 310). I beleive, i can push my score close t0 320. But at the same time i have to write applications as well. Do you think i should consider giving GRE again or focus on my applications?
Not sure on your timelines, but at this stage, you should be targeting the 2021 intake. With that, you’d have sufficient time for a retake and would be strongly recommended.
Manish Gupta sir, what are chances to get into SMU Cox MBA program with a 318 in GRE (167 Q, 151 V) with 3 years experience in a PSU ? The international deadline is March 2nd.
Arnav, for reasons mentioned here (https://www.mbacrystalball.com/blog/2011/10/26/how-not-to-select-business-schools-mba-application-don%e2%80%99ts/), we don’t speculate on school selection chances.
Purely from the GRE score perspective, I don’t think that will be a deal breaker at all though.
If you want a more detailed profile evaluation, feel free to reach out to us.
Hi, Manish
I have written GRE in 2018 with 320 Score. I applied for MS in CS, have been working as a Machine Learning Engineer for 4 years now. But, I think MS might not be what I believe to do in the long run. I want to pursue MBA. Thus, I would need your help. Please let me know how we can connect for consultation.
Thanks
Hi Deepak, feel free to drop an email on mcb (at) mbacrystalball (dot) com with a recent resume, your target schools, deadlines and goals. We can take it from there.