Michigan Ross MBA admit for second MBA applicant

Second MBA in USA

With an MBA from India already on the resume, like most second MBA applicants, Kartik Gupta was sure that it’s a top international bschool or nothing for him. If his application planning didn’t work out as expected, he wasn’t willing to wait for another year either. Here’s how he went about tackling each step of the application process.
 


My Top-bschool-or-nothing second MBA application strategy

by Kartik Gupta

 
After finishing school, I did engineering from MIT, Manipal. I was quite active in extra-curricular activities, holding leadership roles. Which also meant that my undergrad grades weren’t great.

I decided to pursue my MBA in India (technically called a PG diploma in India) and I joined MDI Gurgaon directly after, specializing in HR.

I am currently working in the Organizational Development and Talent Management team in my organization. I have always wanted to work and live across the world and an MBA was a good way to do this.

One specific project that I worked on was alongside a management consulting firm. This experience was the catalyst for me to decide to get a globally renowned MBA and embark on a career shift in the process.

Around the beginning of 2015 I decided to apply to B-schools for admission in fall of 2016. I had decided that I would be choosy with which schools I would apply to and made a list, basis rankings, of schools below which I would not apply.

If I didn’t get in to the schools on my list, I was ok to not go as well. I planned to only apply in this cycle and not the next year, even if I didn’t make it. I also decided that I would only give the GMAT once. All this was mental preparation to ensure that I put in everything into my applications in one go.
 

GMAT Study Plan

I knew Indian male engineering candidates are plenty to choose from for the top B schools, and many would have great GMAT scores. So for the GMAT, I aimed for a score higher than the mid-80% ranges that B schools specify, trying to be beyond the 80%. I did the research on GMAT score weightage to the overall application.

I saw a useful video by MBA Crystal Ball (MCB) on this and realized that the GMAT would constitute maybe only 20% of the weightage of the whole application.

You can’t change most things at this stage, like your work experience, your degrees and your grades. The GMAT was in my control and I wanted to maximize this part of my application.

The first thing I researched was how much time I should put into preparing for the GMAT. I decided that 3-4 months is a good amount of time to bring out the best in your score. 3-4 months can mean different things for different people depending on how many hours a day you can spare for your preparation, so I also decided on exactly how many total hours I would put in and how many practice tests I would take.

This helped me plan my 3 months well and also helped ensure that I felt I did all I could at the end. I used the official GMAT guide and bought the Manhattan GMAT tests. The Manhattan tests were useful but they were definitely tougher to score on than the actual GMAT and the official GMAT practice tests.

The verbal section was my strength and I aimed to maximize on this. I did the Manhattan sentence correction guide thoroughly. For quant, I mainly concentrated on the tests and the official GMAT guide. In hindsight, I should have maybe done an advanced quant guide from the outset.
 

MBA Crystal Ball Review

For anything related to the MBA I would keep reaching the MCB site for answers to my questions and it was really a great source of information from the outset.

Once I got my GMAT score, I undertook the MAP with MG at MCB. This was a great way to start off my preparation for the whole application process – beginning with the end in mind, actually ‘applying’ to MG as the Adcom.

I got to test my own ‘why MBA’ story, get feedback on the list of schools I was applying to and also got feedback on my essay drafts. Doing this towards the beginning of the process helped me have a focused 3 months of applying and gave me the confidence that my decisions had been vetted by an expert.

Fit with the business school is very important to decide which programs you apply to.

While you can get a lot of information online and by talking to people, I felt the need more so to work with MCB, because my work experience was not so common among a typical Indian MBA candidate.

I had a good discussion with MG to decide which schools to apply to and fine tune my overall strategy. Whichever stretch schools I was applying to, I decided to do it in round 1 itself. I applied to 6 schools in round 1 in total but I really had to stretch.

I had 3 schools kept for round 2 and I knew after that I would be done. Each person needs to customize their strategy keeping in mind their goals. Seeing my results at the various B schools, I felt the report generated after the MAP was quite accurate.
 

MBA Interview Experience

My interview was very relaxed, with an alum in a café in Delhi. There were basic questions like why MBA, tell me about yourself, give an example of leadership you admired…

I had made a list of 25-30 questions before the interview for which I went over the answers in my mind once, so that I wouldn’t be caught off guard.

I used the “Tell me about yourself” question to speak for as long as possible about what I wanted to highlight about myself and my profile.
 

Final Admission Results

Michigan Ross admit. Anderson waitlist as of now. Did not apply in round 2 anywhere.
 

General Advice for MBA applicants

Ideally, apply like it’s the first and last time ever. Give your GMAT like that as well.

One thing that I could’ve done more of was networking with alumni, current students etc. well before the process began. Every school looks for this, to see how interested you are in the school. It is good for the essays and some applications have a separate section too about this specifically.

Most of your application is your past, which you can’t change, so don’t keep thinking about grades you didn’t get in college or extra-curriculars you wish you had.

Take time to figure out which schools are a good match for you and once you have done that just think forward. Put in everything to the parts that are in your control and stay positive.
 


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11 Comments

  1. sunaina says:

    M sunaina. Currently working in pnbmetlife as a assistant relationship manager. Previously I worked with icici prudential .total experience is 1.5yrs. M also an mba from local university. I wanna do second mba from top b-school. can u plz guide me whether my decison is gud? And plz guide me wid respect to interview.,preparation, my profile,college etc to get admission in top b -school.

    • Sunaina,

      Whether you should go for another MBA or not is a matter of career priorities/preferences. Can’t just give a generic answer to that I am afraid. You may want to check our career counselling service (http://www.mbacrystalball.com/career-counselling) where we can help you in a much more structured manner.

      For other services, you can check our various packages under the ‘Services’ tab on our website.

  2. Pragya says:

    Hi Manish,

    I read your very informative article. I have done BBE and MBE (Masters in Business Economics) from Delhi University 2009 batch. I am interested in doing PhD in Economics (Health/Education/International Economics). I have working in various profiles related to analytics which included working in Social Sector working in Health, Education or International Economics. I have now 7 years of experience. I am not a pure economics graduate so I have not studied these things much in detail. As you mentioned in the article there is a specific (field related) GRE for PhD aspirants, I am not sure if I can try that. I am really confused about the PhD process. I also want to understand the financial implication if I get full scholarship. Many thanks for your help in advance.

  3. DK says:

    Hello Manish,

    I am quite confuse about selection process in top B-schools. I am planning for my Business PHD, only if I get into ROSS, Rise, UOA Wharton and Penn state. I know these are Top most universities but as per my previous experience, top universities matters if you want to get in to good business consultancies. I already hold Bachelors in Chemical engineering (Mumbai), MS in same (Houston) and MBA (Cincinnati). I do not have academic research experience to convince professors for admits but I have 6 years industrial experience. It includes chemical process designing(2 years), market research, business development, launching a new division from scratch, forming a JV with research on market needs,etc.

    I really feel a need of PHD to go ahead and do career in teaching or business consulting. I am not sure if my profile is good enough for top school or I will be wasting time and money by applying. I can get good GRE score and get reccos from my previous professors but will it be enough?

    Thanks,
    DK

    • DK,

      PhD is not the preferred route to consulting; sure PhDs are hired for that, but it’s more an exception than the norm. Teaching, sure. But then again, before you proceed, assess what stream will you want to target. Btw, teaching and consulting are so different; the step zero for you has to be to determine which is it you want to target.

      I cannot really speculate on your chances of selection as that will be counter-productive. But if you have the right story and good credentials, why not!

  4. Shubhra Aggarwal says:

    Hey. Thanks for this piece. Ross is high on my target list, and like Kartik, I have done my MBA (PGDM) from a reputed school in Delhi (8 years back). So reading here that Ross accepts 2nd time MBA students is sure a real sigh of relief for me. Have a few quick questions though – Could I pls know how much Kartik scored at GMAT? And also, was he able to secure any amount of scholarship at Ross? What’s the number of years of experience (post-MBA) for him? Many thanks.

    • Shubhra, for a school like Ross, getting an admit was the big win for Kartik. He did not get a scholarship, and neither did it matter much since he was going against the odds here.

      He did have a strong GMAT and but as Kartik has mentioned in the article, that wasn’t the only reason he was able to get in.

      His overall strategy involved a more complex process of ensuring that each of the (non-GMAT) components of his MBA application worked well independently as well as in tandem with the others. For instance, having super-strong recommendations that don’t sync well with well-written essays doesn’t help.

      Hope that helps.

  5. Aditya Raje says:

    Hi,

    I have 2.3 year work Experience in It Company(As a developer) and want to do MBA from singapore.

    My Profile

    GMAT-710
    GRE-316
    Btech (cs) -7.8 CGPA
    12th – 77.4
    10th-77.6

    What are the options available for job after my graduation and is it fine to go for mba without having a managerial experience (like consulting or analyst) or should i have to get some consulting exposure before applying to NSU or SMU

    Regards,
    Aditya

  6. Rahul says:

    Hi!

    Need your advice on getting the second MBA.

    My profile:

    BE: Univ of Raj
    MBA: NMIMS Mumbai Finance 2009 grad
    Work Ex: 7+ yrs across Banking and IT sales (SWITCH)
    Acads: Average
    Extra currics: National Level player in my sport, clubs and other activities at school, undergrad and PG

    I am looking for a second MBA in USA (Finance / Strategy)

    Please advise.

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