London Business School MBA after MS in USA

An MBA after engineering is pretty common. How about an MBA after MS? Neerav (name changed) chose to pursue his full-time MBA from the London Business School (LBS) in the UK. He already had a Masters (MS) degree from America. So why go for an MBA after MS? Neerav shares his rationale.


Why I chose the London Business School MBA | by Neerav

I have wanted to write this article on my MBA journey to guide prospective applicants with their journeys. In the following paragraphs, I cover my background, advise on GMAT and the application process and provide insights on my school and program: full-time program at London Business School MBA (LBS).

Why MBA after MS

Like most people from India, I studied engineering. And like many engineers of my age, I faced the choices of joining an IT firm, manufacturing shop or studying further. In my gut, I knew I would not like IT very much and manufacturing job prospects weren’t too exciting either.

So, I chose to do a Master’s in the US. During my M.S., very much by happenstance, I studied Statistics after which I joined analytics – more operations and statistics in the beginning and marketing analytics at a bank later.

The kernels of my MBA aspirations were really the lure of finance, mostly for the money. Those were mid-2000s and Wall Street was indeed the place to be. Or may be that was the crowd psyche. In any case, I wrote the GMAT and committed a terrible mistake, which I won’t be able to correct ever again. I scored 710 or 720, can’t remember exact score, but knew I could do better. But here is my advice on GMAT:

GMAT preparation tips

a) For people like us – Indian engineers and might I add males, the admission process is highly competitive and my opinion is that a higher score helps. Moreover, the GMAT is the only piece in the MBA application process directly in your immediate control. So, working hard for a higher score seems logical.

b) It is very difficult to train for the exact GMAT as very few close substitute tests exist out there. The older tests from GMAT and other training material are indicative of the real GMAT but not very relevant. Given this, one can train for building up stamina to face the test through whatever material exists in the market.

The best way to do this is to take at least 10 full length tests over 4 to 6 weeks. The results from these tests should be used to improve on the areas of weakness. During the GMAT, I felt my mental agility falling short towards the end and believe a little more practice could have helped.

c) Re-take the test if needed and do so 2 to 3 weeks after the first attempt – a better score will supersede the stigma of second attempt. Your test taking abilities are almost at their peak after the first attempt and you should not lose the momentum.

For this, the introspection after the test is paramount – internal evaluation on what went well and what should have gone well. I skipped this step and immediately went into the application mode – not very wise in hindsight. I say this as I knew I had botched-up the second question in the Math section and my scores in other tests were 20 to 30 points higher.

London Business School MBA essays

Writing the MBA essays is not trivial task. Seek outside help if you must, but do not expect a fully packaged essays ready to be shipped. Even if someone offers this to you, the essays won’t reflect your story, your persona. Guidance and polishing is where outside help could be used, more so if English is not your first language.

I did not use any such service as my (American) boss and roommate helped me with the reviews and comments. Essays are painful but important as they give you a glimpse of the writing skills needed in MBA assignments. Do not skimp here.

With a full-time job, I opine that applying to more than five schools with good quality applications is very difficult. Part of my school choosing criteria was based on which essays I could re-cycle! Rather unfortunate but true.

London Business School MBA interview preparation

The last phase of applications is interviewing, where I had faltered before and sought help from Sameer (at Crystal Ball).

For the London Business School MBA interview, I had prepared my answers to a few sure-to-be asked questions and practiced them in front of a camera. This helped me with my non-verbal communication.

Speaking with Sameer was a confidence booster and I believe a friend or colleague would not have helped me in this situation, for obvious reasons.

Why London Business School MBA

For me the decision to go to the London Business School MBA was straightforward. I was vying for a career change and into finance, for which the next best school I received admit from, could not serve my purpose – a one year program to begin with ruled it out.

Instead of delving into the depths of my experience at London Business School, I wish to mention a few points that distinguish LBS from other schools.

Foremost, the average age of the student body at London Business School is on the higher side compared to American schools. So, the students have more experience and most of them have lived in at least two countries before the application. So, expect more mature audience with a high emotional quotient and tolerance.

Also, the LBS student body has very few students from 3 year analyst programs from consulting and banks versus the typical American school. I would take this student body over that of an American school as I doubt whether I could have learnt much from the 3 years experienced students.

Secondly, I have seen relatively few people use the London Business School MBA to ‘settle’ in UK. So, if an MBA for you is a tool to leave your home country to get a job abroad you will be well-off in US. This may be due to the recent change in UK’s visa regime or the smaller size of the UK market or that the MBA is not as well regarded in UK as in US or that employers in UK are not very comfortable with the notion of a career transition or the mayhem that the European economy is these days.

These are very much my opinions based on my personal experience so feel free to discount them as needed. This been said, everyone returning home or to some other place secured a good job.

Lastly, unlike American b-schools, the London Business School MBA has a highly flexible second year, which I am a great fan of. At the b-school, I was not looking for academic cramming with so many courses a quarter/semester and so many case studies per week. The second year at LBS offers the flexibility to tailor one’s program to suit academics, career stints or world travel.

This flexibility allowed me to work at hedge funds to know what the career I aspired to get into was all about – the most important advantage at LBS. The London location also helps in this regard. At the same time, I was able to concentrate on the academics with many courses being offered in the evening.

Additionally, the electives are shared across programs – Executive MBA, Sloans, Global MBAs, Masters in Finance, and of course exchange students – an excellent way to turbo charge your network!

I hope this is helpful for prospective applicants in knowing a little more about the London Business School MBA.

Good Luck!


We’ll get Neerav back for another post, to share tips on what MBA applicants should consider before applying.
Not ready for a full-time degree yet? Check out this article on the Executive MBA from London business School.


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16 Comments

  1. sravanthi says:

    Dear sir / madam,

    I am sravanthi i am completed mba finanace and marketing , so my aim is ms in usa / uk ,so ple send for details my email id is sravanthiallis@gmail.com

    Regrads & thanks ,
    sravanthi.

  2. Sameer Kamat says:

    Sravanthi, if you are looking for application details for MS in USA / UK, you’ll find the details on the respective university sites.

    Btw, it’s unusual for folks to apply for MS programs after an MBA. Are you sure you are taking this in the right direction?

  3. Ritesh says:

    hi Sameer this is Ritesh I am having one small doubt I hope u can solve my problem clearly after doing Ms in USA I want to do mba from best b schools in USA ,is gmat is necessary to me otherwise how can I get into that b schools

    • Sameer Kamat says:

      Most of the top MBA schools will insist on either a GMAT or GRE score.

      For your MS in USA, you’d already have taken the GRE exam. If its a good score and if it’s still valid, you can use that for your MBA applications.

  4. pallavi says:

    Hi Sameer ,
    This might sound a little naive to you but i am pursuing my Mtech in India right now but i recently had change of mind regarding my career and i want to know if there is any chance i can go for MBA abroad after this.since i have done both my btech and mtech degrees in Bioinformatics i might look for MBA in pharmaceutical industry.
    please suggest if its a good idea.

    • Sameer Kamat says:

      Sure, you can pursue an MBA abroad after completing a Masters degree from India. But it’ll be better if you defer the decision till you’ve had a few years of work experience after M.Tech.

  5. Joshnavi says:

    Hi Sameer I am Joshnavi, I completed my B Tech in CSE and at present I am working in a Reputed MNC, but my aim is to do mba in finance !!
    by march I will have my 1 year experience, after I am planning for MS in US, My plan is to work for few more years after MS, and then go for MBA in finance which my main goal !! any suggestion on this plan please.

    • Sameer Kamat says:

      Your double qualification (bachelors and masters) in a tech field will entrench you more in, (you guessed it) the tech field.

      A more optimal route would be to skip the intermediate degree (considering you aren’t interested in a long term technical career anyway) and look at an MBA when you are ready.

  6. arushi says:

    Hey Sameer,
    I am currently pursuing Btech in comp sciences.I am really confused about the next step i should be taking,i.e. mba right away or ms and then mba. Could you plz suggest something that makes it a little easier?

  7. Sanjeet jha says:

    Hello sameer , First thanks a lot for this wonderful initiative , I am B.Tech ( Mechanical ) have more than 10 years working experience in india in a MNC for industrial products ..presently working as a National sales Head in India. .
    Want to do MBA from outside India, what do you suggest whether it will help my career growth. .if yes ..? FROM where should I do? US or UK..
    My wife is a doctor in UK and she is working since last one year ..fortunately I do have dependent visa for UK..
    How much importance should I give this visa for selecting MBA courses in countries ..which university or courses you would like to suggest ?
    Plz advice as it’s really difficult to decide ?
    Regards
    Sanjeet

  8. Krishna Sharma says:

    Hello Sameer,

    I have done B.Tech from CSE in India and will be going for Masters in Computer Science in Fall 2016. I am thinking to take specialization in data analytics and gain work experience in the same field for 4-5 years and then move on to MBA goals aiming some top MBA Schools. Can you tell me whether it is the correct career path and which specialization in MBA can I opt for after work experience in data analytics? I am interested in mathematics and strategic fields more. Will my two degrees in technical field hamper me to pursue MBA in ‘finance and strategy’ or ‘marketing and analytics’?

    Regards,
    Krishna

  9. RADHIKA RAMESH says:

    Hi sameer
    My son prasana finished MS in USA .Specialised in Big data science but wanting to shift from tech to finance.
    can he do MBA with the same GRE wh he has now?
    Is one year MBA worth doing?
    Can u give me some advice.

  10. Sameer Kamat says:

    @Radhika: Yes, he can use the same GRE score if it hasn’t expired yet.

    Whether a one year program is worth doing or not will depend on a lot of factors (goals, timing, experience, program etc).

  11. Sai Durga Prasad says:

    Hello ,

    I am Sai Durga,

    I have completed my Bachelors in India, and right now doing MS in Computer Science(no gap for job expirence). My interest is towards business, hence im planning to take an MBA degree in entreprenuership after my MS. So, i have following questions

    1)Is my plan to do MBA , will help my career?
    2)Do we need job experience for getting in best schools like LSB?

    Thank You
    Sai Durga Prasad Gudla

  12. Poojitha says:

    Hello,

    I am Poojitha,

    I have completed my Masters in India, and right now i am doing job in India, i am having 2 years of experience. My interest is towards project management, hence i am planning to take an MBA degree in USA.
    I am having few questions:
    1) Can i purse MBA after completion of masters?
    2) During Visa process, do there will be any problem with that?
    3) Did Project Management department is worthy to choose?

    Thank You
    Poojitha.

  13. Aritra Datta says:

    Hi Sameer, Hope you are doing well. I would like to know that if someone wants to settle down in India with a lucrative job after having work experience of 7 years as IT professional in USA with a MS degree from USA; which MBA universities and specific programs would be the best to target at. And which exam between CAT and GMAT would be better to choose and why?

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